One other odd problem during this time was the oil level test did not work. To my shame, I am not sure how to post video in your blog. The engine is running rough at idle. Hi Hi, I have little complicated problem with F30 N20B20 2012 engine.. comming in shop with cold start issuesafter replacing the broken high pressure pump and reseting adaptations, changing oilI have DTC about wrong exhaust camshaft installation position. I have done my timing chain after finish car starts up runs but would not idle until cel come on. It is possible without the timing tools, but if you risk needing to re-time the engine if something moves. Thank You very much for your help. Also how does a dealerships diagnose if a vehicle is eligible for extended timing chain warranty? SUBJECT As many have said before, thank you for your very valuable insights and information. My car, BMW 320i 2014 with N20 Engine, with 33K Miles on the clock, is just broke down with a drive train error. New battery installed. 108f01 Question,,,,,why did we replace the DME with a used one,,,that might be a problem,,,,a used DME can not be used because it is programmed and encoded to a different car,,,,what is wrong with your DME? Most likely you have broken timing chain guides and the whole timing set will need to be replaced. It goes from 0 8 kpa and back to 0 will cranking do you have any idea what that reading should be on the fuel rail. Is this related to the new engine I got? Everything else works perfectly at 176,000km. I have checked timing multiple times, I found this article online and this is what Im thinking right now!! If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? Thank you, No still would be concern,,,,I dont know if they used a different timing chain guide before 6/2012. Jul 8, 2020. Coasting to a stop the engine suddenly died and would not restart. I have 2013 BMW X1 xdrive28i with 79,000 km on it. You could remove the valve cover and get a friend to hold tension on the chain while you change the tensioner, but its not exactly a quick job. The ticking noise is normal on all N20 engine during cold start and then it get quieter when it warms up,,,what Im more worried about if the car has a whining noise and also trying to get the timing chain and rails replaced under BMW extended warranty. Also after cold start also misfire error pops up. possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve and clean it? Please help! Looks all good. Or do you think its just possible plastic bits of junk in the sump pump pick up? I realize that a limited amount of fuel can get into the oil as part of the combustion process, but I cant imagine that small amount breaking down plastic. When engine starts cam shaft on exhaust goes all the way to the end. Hi greatings from Norway i have also a Bmw 320i GT-xdrive with 97k-km i dont hear any winning on the chain.I dont find in your list f34 320i Gt from 07.2013 that means that is not afected or just is not on the list i called allso BMW-and they said that my car is not on the extendet waranty list.Im verry stresed with this timming chain issue every time when i go on the car i listen to the engine is like ridding a time bomb.I am paning to change the timming chain at 150k-km even if is not making the noise.And whi there so many 328i afected and 320i not does it matter if mine is a xdrive?does the chain is more under load fi the care is x-drive? 131501 Variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) intake, cold start: not controllable. They also got me up to speed on the known timing chain issues, extended 7yr/70,000 mile extended warranty and class action lawsuit stuff. Reduced power" warning, 745i 2002 - Engine Malfunction - reduced power, If this is your first visit, be sure to 112,000 km / 7 years. The dealership should be interested in fixing it because it means money for the tech and for the dealership,,,,that doesnt make any sense. The last oil change was two years ago but only 2200 miles were driven. Exhaust Camshaft: Installation faulty. Do I have to buy the extended warranty to get the timing chain replaced by BMW or the 7/70 warranty is for all bmw? Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.50.4 or higher. Only in eco or comfort mode when I drive carefully or just keeping a normal speed at low rpm. I had to replace the valve lifters. Usually the Vanos units lock in its default position when engine is turned off. also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? The engine is running and seems to run pretty good although its still has that ticking sound that it had before. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? Defect Code: 11 36 01 96 00 2D55 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable The Service Engine Soon lamp and Engine Malfunction warning are illuminated, and the vehicle [ Copyright 2013 BMW of North America, Inc. ] My daughters 2013 survived. Here the vehicle was driven only at SP98. Hi, thank you for the reply. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158. troubleshooting with the applicable test plan for the fault(s) stored. Just replaced timing chain and oil pump module on n20 13 528i xdrive. N20 engines were released in 2011 and began phasing out in 2016 in favor of the new BMW B48 engine. Code 131401 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS exhaust cold start not controllable, Your problem could be a programming issue or it could could both vanos units as per sib bulletin 12 14 12, Hello, I replaced the oil filter, inspected the oil filter basket and the green O ring at the bottom. Risking my good fortune I had to run the VANOS function test again. Hello BMW Technician, I have a 2011 BMW 535i with N55 engine. Most auto repairs shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. or can I slowly unscrew the center valve and insert a new one? One or more of the following faults is stored in the I guess I can continue to enjoy the car and see what happens or sell it. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. Code 120408 Charging Pressure control Switch off as consequence https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 F31 If that helps you with anything! The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. Maybe I should replace them? This second mechanic doesnt have a scope to check the engine like the dealership did so now Im just confused and concerned that one or the other is missing something. 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. No turnover on start at all. The warrantee was in place until 2019. he said, he need to take out the valve cover to check the timing chain, tensioner and cam shaft. The oil filter element appears to collapsed / sucked in at the center. 61 00 720 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) No,,,timing chain issue only on gasoline engine, Your email address will not be published. Thank you for your time and expertise. To set the timing properly you have to be sure the Vanos units are locked its end position, so its moving 1:1 with the camshaft. I dont know how serious this is,,,but your mechanic is right to remove the valve cover and inspect the timing chain and guide rails,,,,if that is ok the check the exhaust vanos unit and intake vanos units,,,,your faults are for the exhaust side,,,the boost charge fault is due to the exhaust vanos faults. Am I free of concern? He indicated it was a timing chain waiting to fail- do you agree? SB-10053485-8362 Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? BMW X3 and X4 Forums | F25 (2011 - 2017) | F26 (2014 - 2017), Second Generation BMW X3 (F25) General Forum, https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/fshaft/HtiBPV3K, https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2053485-8362.pdf. Thanks! Just need to clear the check engine light. Cloning means making full copy of ISN files from original DME and copy it over to use DME, So what happens if the ISN files are corrupted and you just copied it over to the other DMEare the pins damaged on the original DME ,,,or are the connection on the harness damage,,,,we just had a car last mouth where the harness was damaged for the fuel injector signals causing fuel to dump,,,the harness was damaged on the connector for the DME,,,you might have to perform OHM test on the harness to make sure the harness and connections are good. I have a 2015 x1 with an April 2015 manufacture date. Glossary of Emission Coverage attachment for more information. 130304 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, camshaft jammed Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i and its in the list. This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B12 15 13 dated September 2013. To delete the three faults actually required deleting the faults two times. It appears to be a relatively simple, .5 hr swap. Now getting error 131501. Apr 14, 2022 BMW F30 328i 2013 N20 engine "Drivetrain malfunction etc" comes on occasionally. Now also Im sitting 3 months over then 7/70 mark! N52 E91N 320i N46N E90N 335d E30 318i M10 e93 335i F10 520d E30 320i E84 X1 16i f20 116i f23n M240i F15 X5 30dX E46 325xi F32 428i N20 F10 520i e93 335i F25 X3 . Andreas first and foremost thank you for sharing your knowledge. Loss of power and smoke on the exhaust when accelerating. to model implausibly too high . I took it to the bmw for a diagnostic and they said that Im just better off replacing the engine than trying to find out what is wrong with the car. A service advisor at a reputable independent repair shop was concerned about the brief rattle/stutter (5 second mark) in this video upon ignition. They also included a video from the technician. Could you please guide me? Ive enjoyed your blog and I hope you will start posting again. Ask an Expert Car Questions BMW Questions 3,220 Satisfied Customers Roger is online now Related BMW Questions Have an issue after replacing valve cover gasket the car has 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence These are all pretty standard specs for most modern BMW engines. So I drive a 2011 335i N55 and yesterday I was driving home and on the way i was trying to pass a car, hit the gas and as soon as i started to pick up, a malfunction light came on and immediately went into LIMP mode. Hello guys this post is really helpful , i own F22 2014 220i gulf specs its in the middle east the car has been serviced in the agency and never been informed about the chain issue , should i be concerned ? Its hard to say what the problem might be,,,but with the timing chain issue on that engine,,,I would look into that and maybe the exhaust vanos unit? E84 and E89 when he took a test drive, the codes again cam back. The problem could be caused by the fuel destroying the plastic guide. Yes took off the valve cover 3 times so far. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! one of the plug had corroded pins due to leaking pigtail from that Dinan harness and i got the DME clone. CDA904 No message Status of trailer, 0X2e4 DME receiver AHM transmitter. As you can see theres is nothing special about these vanos unit,,,,when I was checking out the engine I also found the exhaust vanos unit,,,,one of the bolt were broken,,,,so I replaced both vanos unit and had to find TDC on the engine and time the engine,,,,while performing this job,,,,,I also removed the oil pan and removed all the broken pieces from the vanos units,,,,,so they dont roll around in the oil pan.,,,,we just dont see these vanos units going bad on the newer engines,,,,I havent seen one go bad on a N20 yet.,,,,as a tech this is not a bad job,,,,pays ok if you can work fast,,,,replacing both vanos units and removing the oil pan,,,,,all can be done in one day if you know what you are doing and dont mess up the timing which we all have done at some time..lol, There are 4 torque bolts that hold the gear sprocket and vanos together,,,,those bolt are made of aluminum. Code 131501 returned. This seems correct, but I'm looking to avoid removing the valve cover. Thank you so much for your advice. 00 00 006 Refer to KSD2 Performing vehicle test (with vehicle Changed the exhaust VANOS. Was it coincidental and maybe the bits of trash in the both VANOS spool valves cleared at the exact same time? 61 00 710 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: It is still worth inquiring about at your local dealership. The auto repair labor rates vary by location, your vehicle's make and model, and even your engine type. Thank You very much for the reply !! Also can sparkplugs have any influence to this situation? Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. I've done exactly the same thing and caused this issue by replacing the timing chain tensioner. Brought it to a second mechanic. for this problem there is a software update available. But the list post on this forum shows E84 X1 xDrive28i with N20 is a recall! Technical Service Hi, I own a 2012 BMW X1 that recently developed a timing chain problem. My 2013 X3 28i timing chain was replaced by BMW (no cost to me) in January 2019 at 107,000 km. Do u recommend changing the tensioner as preventive maintenance? Now how I understand it is this is not a timing issue. My mechanic said he had already replaced the Vanos sol valves and still getting the same codes. check out the. Hi Im wondering do I need to have a 7/70 warranty to get BMW cover for this problem? I know I might be looking at replacing Vanos Actuator, central valve or the whole vanos unit. Common Symptoms Increase in fuel consumption Poor engine performance Possible misfire on start-up Cold start issues Possible Causes There are several possible causes for this code, such as: Damaged camshaft position sensor Defective crankshaft position sensor There have been no changes to the engine since the initial startup after the timing chain installation.