To listen in full, and to all our Close Readings series, sign up here: lrb.me/closereadings The list of English classical translations by contemporary women is distinguished and growing every year: it includes Susanna Braunds Lucan; Diane Arnson Svarliens Euripides; Cynthia Damons Tacitus and Julius Caesar; Alicia Stallings Lucretius; Deborah Robertss Prometheus Bound; Janet Lembkes Virgil and Euripides; Laura Gibbss Aesop; and Anne Carsons innovative, stylish versions of Greek tragedies, as well as her Sappho (also now translated by Diane Rayor). We are in a bull market, especially in the US, for new translations of classical texts. Although the war is begun over a woman, Helen, stolen from her Greek husband by a Trojan, the Iliad is a poem about and presided over by men. Whatever the truth of their origin, the two stories, developed around three thousand years ago, may well still be read in three thousand years' time. The reviewer actually says this about Emily Wilson's translation: " And genius is certainly one of the first words that comes to mind when reading Emily Wilson's clean-lined, compulsively readable translation of the Odyssey **, one of the most interesting versions of the epic ever produced in English."**. It says it is translated by Fagles but it is not. On the other hand, as Prins says, these plays could be read more than one way. Maria Dahvana Headley is a #1 New York Times -bestselling author of . Next up, alphabetically, is female cleaning personnel, which has a larger number of volumes devoted to it: six, with no duplicates, none by Beard. I had a childhood where it was very hard to name feelings, and just the fact that tragedy as a genre is very good at naming feelings. Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. She later noted that Seneca is an interesting subject because "he's so precise in articulating what it means to have a very, very clear vision of the good life and to be completely unable to follow through on living the good life." Emily Wilson is the College for Women Class of 1963 Term Professor in the Humanities, professor of Classical Studies, and graduate chair of the Program in Comparative Literature & Literary. It is an interesting injunction from Odysseus, who himself, during his 10 years of wandering, was serially unfaithful. I just felt like I wanted to spend a little bit longer with Euripides.. In the second-wave feminist scholarship in classics, Wilson told me, people were very keen to try to read Penelope as, Lets find Penelopes voice in the Odyssey, and lets celebrate her, because look, here she is being the hero in an epic in ways we can somehow unpack. I find thats a little simplistic. Now we have an excellent new translation of the epic by the British classicist Emily Wilson. Emily Wilson's crisp and musical version is a cultural landmark. Wilson commented on the challenges of translating Seneca's ornate rhetorical style, saying that Senecan bombast in contemporary English risks sounding "too silly to be impressive. Greek tragedy was associated with the desire to find space on the page and in life for reason and emotion and to remake English poetic language in a modernist or proto-modernist mode. The translation was, literally, faithful: God himself had moved their hands in unison, only one possible translation for his Word. Throughout her translation of the Odyssey, Wilson has made small but, it turns out, radical changes to the way many key scenes of the epic are presented radical in that, in 400 years of versions of the poem, no translator has made the kinds of alterations Wilson has, changes that go to truing a text that, as she says, has through translation accumulated distortions that affect the way even scholars who read Greek discuss the original. Her mother, Katherine Duncan-Jones, a Shakespeare specialist, taught English literature at Oxford; her mothers brother, Roman history at Cambridge; her mothers father, a disappointed philosopher disappointed because, though he went to Cambridge, he couldnt get a job there taught at Birmingham; and her mothers mother, Elsie Duncan-Jones, also at Birmingham, was an authority on the poetry of Andrew Marvell. Before tenure you have to write, you know, the right kind of book the right kind being one on a subject that your discipline has yet to exhaust. The first English translation of The Iliad by a woman (Alexander) came out last year. There is now a far larger textbook market for classical translations to be read in university courses, which imposes its own constraints on the translator. These Wilson shares. Introduced by: Amy Stolls. Perhaps the most famous such expression is in Matthew Arnolds On Translating Homer, his series of lectures in 1860 when he was Oxford professor of poetry. Where Fagles wrote whores and the likes of them and Lattimore the creatures the original Greek, Wilson explained, is just a feminine definite article meaning female ones. To call them whores and creatures reflects, for Wilson, a misogynistic agenda: their translators interpretation of how these females would be defined. I asked Wilson why translation isnt valued in the academy. The Aeneid, perhaps the most canonical Latin text, was translated into English by a woman (Ruden) for the first time in 2009. But Hutchinsons work exists only in manuscript; like that of most British female classical translators before this generation, her work was largely unknown beyond her own immediate circle. We dont quite know what the layers are yet. The context in which contemporary women produce translations of ancient Greek and Latin is very different from that of the Victorian and Edwardian ladies studied by Prins. Guernica'sBen Purkert interviewed Odyssey translator Emily Wilson! Capping a decade of intense engagement with Homers poetry, Wilsons. Maria Dahvana Headley (whose new Beowulf has just appeared) and Emily Wilson (translator of The Odyssey, now at work on The Iliad) joined LTAC Director Susan Bernofsky for a far-ranging conversation on the radical practice of making translation a space of resistance and joy. As Wilson spoke, I recalled a little formula by the American critic Guy Davenport about the difference between Homers two poems: The Iliad is a poem about force; the Odyssey is a poem about the triumph of the mind over force. Wilson was parsing the nature of that triumph, embedded in the poems very first adjective, a difference in mind that would make for a difference in Odysseuss nature, both as a warrior and as a husband. Some trade-offs are inevitable. In the Iliad, it is Achilles, the greatest of the Greeks, a demigod almost invulnerable to death. I wanted it to feel like an idiomatic thing that you might say about somebody: that he is complicated., I asked: What about the commentator who says, It does something that more than modernizes it subverts the fundamental strangeness of the way Odysseus is characterized. Im sure some classicists are going to say its flat out wrong, Interesting, but wrong., Youre quite right, she replied. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 22, 2020. Today, Wilson is working on several different projects, including a translation of Homer's Iliad and a book about translation itself, titled Faithful.Although she has already finished several books of the Iliad, it has been a unique project."The whole mood of the poem is totally different from the mood of The Odyssey," Wilson explains, "It took quite some time to get my head around how . Theres Alexander Popes for wisdoms various arts renownd; William Cowpers For shrewdness famed/And genius versatile; H.F. Carys crafty; William Sothebys by long experience tried; Theodore Buckleys full of resources; Henry Alfords much-versed; Philip Worsleys that hero; the Rev. Of the existing translations, it seems to me that none get across to a reader without Greek the open question that, in fact, is the opening question of the Odyssey, one embedded in the fifth word in its first line: What sort of man is Odysseus? He was one of a long line of bards, or poets, who worked in the oral tradition. This article was amended on 10 July 2017 to give Diane Arnson Svarliens full name. Jun 3, 2021 I thought I had already learned how much there always is to learn, for instance in trying to leap across the vast stylistic gaps from Seneca to Euripides. Because there is no perception that its serious intellectually. Complicated: the brilliance of Wilsons choice is, in part, its seeming straightforwardness. "[8], Wilson is a book reviewer for The Times Literary Supplement,[9] the London Review of Books,[10] and The New Republic. One might wonder whether the gender of the translator makes a difference that can be discerned on the page. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. These changes seem, at each turn, to ask us to appreciate the gravity of the events that are unfolding, the human cost of differences of mind. Wilson doesnt shy from colloquialisms: fighting solo, pep talk, on day eighteen. And there are some daring choices. But Wilson aims for a direct equation: one line of English for one of Greek. Professor Emily Wilson, Classical Studies and Comparative Literature, "Iliad Translation In Progress: A reading.". In a cultural context where knowledge of Greek and Latin was an essential marker of elite social status, women needed to demonstrate their capacity to cross this intellectual barrier. Though her education there, she says, offered her a strong introduction to literary study, it wasnt lost on her that none of her professors were women. Reviewed in the United States on April 13, 2021. L ate in August, as a shadow 70 miles wide was traveling across the United States, turning day briefly to night and millions of Americans into watchers of the skies, the British classicist Emily. Though she has resisted them, the women in her palace have not. That there could still be big questions about a nearly-three-millenniums-old poem that most everyone has heard of it has exerted an influence on writers, from Virgil to Milton to Joyce has everything to do with how Wilson is seeking to redefine the job of modern literary scholarship, an ambition that seems, in part, an inheritance. I love that about it., Although Wilson was undecided on a direction after taking her undergraduate degree she had thoughts of doing law she ultimately chose to do further studies in English literature at Oxford while she figured her way forward, rereading some of her favorite books, particularly Miltons Paradise Lost. Emerging with a sense that the writers she appreciated most were in dialogue with antiquity, Wilson pursued a Ph.D. in classics and comparative literature at Yale. Very affordable. : Some of these plays Antigone and the Sophoclean Electra in particular could be moulded to fit repressive contemporary ideals of womanhood, since their heroines demonstrate selfless devotion to dead male family members. Odysseus, after slaying the suitors, tells his son, Telemachus, to kill the women. As well as The Aeneid, the prolific and versatile Ruden has produced wonderfully original versions of Aeschylus (The Oresteia), as well as Aristophanes, Apuleius, Petronius, Augustine and more. Eligible for Return, Refund or Replacement within 30 days of receipt. I must confess, I bogged down about halfway through reading this, one of the iconic works of Western literature. What happens to all the unelite women?, In the episode that Wilson calls one of the most horrible and haunting of the whole poem, Odysseus returns home to find that his palace has been overrun by suitors for his wifes hand. I need to have a better answer to them, because they will certainly review it, and they will certainly have a loud voice. The inability to take classical texts for granted is a great gift that some female translators are able to use as a point of leverage, to shift the canon to a different and unexpected place. Wilson is at her best in one of the poems greatest scenes, the first meeting in Book 19 between Penelope and her unrecognized husband: Her face was melting, like the snow that Zephyr scatters across the mountain peaks; then Eurus thaws it, and as it melts, the rivers swell and flow again. Her fifth word is also her solution to the Greek poems fifth word to polytropos: When I first read these lines early this summer in The Paris Review, which published an excerpt, I was floored. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Her complex answer is tied up with the history of womens education. Most opt for straightforward assertions of Odysseuss nature, descriptions running from the positive (crafty, sagacious, versatile) to the negative (shifty, restless, cunning). In 2010, she translated Seneca's tragedies, with an introduction and notes, in Six Tragedies of Seneca. So it would be GREAT if you can mention the name of the translator in the product description. Zeus is replaced by Athena as the dominant god of the tale; the poem begins not with Odysseus but with his wife, Penelope, who has been without him for 20 years, in a kingdom overrun by suitors for her hand, whom the conventions of hospitality ensure she cannot simply expel. Daciers well-informed, scholarly texts were widely read, not least by Alexander Pope, who used her French to produce his translations of Homer. Graduate Coordinator: Katelyn Stoler 236 Cohen Hall, 249 South 36th Street University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 19104-6304 (215) 573-0250 kastoler@upenn.edu Order now and if the Amazon.com price decreases between your order time and the end of the day of the release date, you'll receive the lowest price. I had enjoyed Fitzgerald's verse translation of The Aenied as a result of which I bought this verse translation of the Iliad. [1] Her thesis was entitled Why Do I Overlive? Greek maenads were the model for a new, uncorseted way of moving, leaping and dancing. From their conversation: Guernica: [The] Timesreferred to you as the first woman to translateThe Odyssey, and I know many other outlets have really focused on this too. Only last year came this new English translation by Emily Wilson, an American academic and allegedly the first woman to translate Homer into English. Anyone can read what you share. But to consult Wilsons 60 some predecessors, living and dead, is to find that consensus has been hard to come by. Photo by Kyle Cassidy. Often they are long, rolling words: polyphloisboio thalasses, the much-thundering sea, or rhododaktylos eos, rosy-fingered dawn. Wilsons short line preserves some, but others vanish or survive only as adverbs (pensively Penelope sat down). How, I asked, would she address such a complaint from someone in her field? She made me hear for the first time the veiled menace when the disguised Odysseus answers an insult from one of the nastier suitors: Crafty Odysseus said, How I wish, Eurymachus, that we could have a contest in springtime in the meadow, when the days are growing longer; I would have a scythe of perfect curvature and so would you. Homer didn't write in King's English, you know. Don't waste your money, unless of course that is what you are after. Wilson did write a range of books before tenure, most on canonical texts: her study of suffering and death in literature; a monograph on Socrates. But often such words carry real weight: the suitors sauntered in, for instance, where the verb perfectly captures this crew of dapper sociopaths. Achilles is forced to give Briseis to Agamemnon which leads to Achilles sulking in his tent and refusing to fight. We dont share your credit card details with third-party sellers, and we dont sell your information to others. My name is Zameer Ahmed. In school, Wilson was shy but accomplished. Now Wilson has returned with an equally revelatory translation of the first great Homeric epic: the, In Wilsons hands, this exciting and often horrifying work now gallops at a pace befitting its best battle scenes, roaring with the clamor of arms, the bellowing boasts of victors, and the anguished cries of dying men. Poetry News Guernica Talks to Emily Wilson While She Translates The Iliad By Harriet Staff Guernica 's Ben Purkert interviewed Odyssey translator Emily Wilson! Emily Wilsons translation of Homers Odyssey will be published in the autumn by Norton. She liked French but was in terror of talking in class. Celebrated for her vivid and lyrical translation of Homer's The Odyssey, Wilson will read from new work currently in progress: translations of Homer's Iliad and Oedipus . He studied at Berkeley and Harvard and taught for 34 years at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, where he is Bascom-Halls Professor of Classics Emeritus. "We discussed toxic masculinity, pseudo feminism, and which pronouns are most appropriate for Homer," says Purkert. Iliad remains not only among the greatest adventure stories ever told but also one of the most compelling meditations on the human condition ever written. The first, Mocked With Death (2005), grew out of her dissertation and examines mortality in the tragic tradition: "our constant awareness of all that we will lose, are losing, have lost. Late in August, as a shadow 70 miles wide was traveling across the United States, turning day briefly to night and millions of Americans into watchers of the skies, the British classicist Emily Wilson, a woman of 45 prone to energetic explanations and un-self-conscious laughter, was leading me through a line of Ancient Greek. We can only hope that, in the coming years, more British and American women including people who are neither ladies nor white will begin to translate Greek and Roman texts into English. They knew that an encounter with this alien language and culture could help them move, feel, think and write differently. Thats one of the things it says. Her books include The Death of Socrates: Hero, Villain, Chatterbox, Saint (2007) and The Greatest Empire: A Life of Seneca (2014). [2], Wilson "comes from a long line of academics",[2] including both her parents, A. N. Wilson[3] and Katherine Duncan-Jones,[4] her uncle, and her maternal grandparents, including Elsie Duncan-Jones. Norgates of many a turn; George Musgraves tost to and fro by fate; the Rev. Homer was probably born around 725BC on the Coast of Asia Minor, now the coast of Turkey, but then really a part of Greece. wanted a Greek copy of the Pentateuch the five books of Moses for the Library of Alexandria. A Version of Homer That Dares to Match Him Line for Line, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/books/review/odyssey-homer-emily-wilson-translation.html. [6], Wilson has authored five books. Ruden once commented that women are good at translating classics because it puts them in a typically feminine position of abjection, always yearning for an eternally absent male figure: its like developing a relationship with God. These are not good criteria, Wilson told me. The Odyssey Appearances @EmilyRCWilson Scholia About Wilson Contact Me Contact Form. The 70 translations? Of the 60 or so answers to the polytropos question to date, the 36 given above couldnt be less uniform (the two dozen I omit repeat, with minor variations, earlier solutions); what unites them is that their translators largely ignore the ambiguity built into the word theyre translating. The general plainness of the language makes longer or unusual words stand out. Mostly, Wilson recalls a quiet, almost somber childhood with her younger sister, the writer Bee Wilson, and her father, the prolific biographer, novelist and critic A.N. For the love of whatever please stop asking, it's legit distressing. Emily Wilson is Professor in the Department of Classical Studies and Chair of the Program in Comparative Literature and Literary Theory at the University of Pennsylvania. So do the breezy complacency of Menelaus, the innocence of Nausicaa, the gruff decency of the swineherd Eumaeus. In Wilsons hands, this exciting and often horrifying work now gallops at a pace befitting its best battle scenes, roaring with the clamor of arms, the bellowing boasts of victors, and the anguished cries of dying men. The whole question of What is that story? is going to depend on the language, the words that you use.. But now, at long last, we are beginning to see an outpouring of translations of Greek and Latin texts by women. Those are the four? September brought us Daniel Mendelsohns An Odyssey, his memoir of teaching this poem about fathers and sons to a class at Bard College that included his own father. Find all the books, read about the author, and more. I should begin by clarifying that Im the first woman to translate a complete edition ofThe OdysseyintoEnglish; other women have translated the poem into other languages. Capping a decade of intense engagement with Homers poetry, Wilsons Iliad now gives us a complete Homer for our generation. Pre-order Price Guarantee! John Giless of many fortunes; T.S. Arnold wrote a famous essay, On Translating Homer. Though he never produced a translation himself, I think he would have recognized his Homer a poet eminently rapid, eminently plain and direct in Wilsons. He is celebrated for his argument tying the creation of the Greek alphabet to the recording of the Homeric Poems, but is also well known for his textbooks on Greek myth and Greek history and his work on the history of writing. The story is so good/intense it ruined my life for a solid week. 4.74.7 out of 5 stars(732) Audible Audiobook $0.00$0.00$44.49$44.49 Free with Audible trial Available instantly Kindle $15.99$15.99$19.99$19.99 Available instantly Hardcover Other format: Paperback The Odyssey by Homer, Emily Wilson - translator, et al. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, Learn more how customers reviews work on Amazon. Im trying to take this task and this process of responding to this text and creating this text extremely seriously, with whatever I have, linguistically, sonically, emotionally.. So the question, Wilson continued, of whether hes the turned or the turner: I played around with that a lot in terms of how much should I be explicit about going for one versus the other. He himself is still I believe the longest leader of the Conservative Party, and served as Prime Minister for three terms, and helped see through the Reform Act of 1867. Not all female translators would describe themselves as feminists and many female classical translators, like almost all their male counterparts, do not see gender as a central element in their work. Both projects were outgrowths of her old desire to spend a little bit longer with these authors. If the Iliad is the world's greatest war epic, . (review of three separate translations of, This page was last edited on 25 January 2023, at 19:47. Speaker: Emily Wilson (University of Pennsylvania) Professor of Classical Studies Title: "Iliad 24: A Reading from My Translation" All English translators of Homer face a basic problem. Here's what happened when a woman took the job", "The first English Translation of the Odyssey by a woman was worth the wait", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emily_Wilson_(classicist)&oldid=1135613612, Scholar, professor, writer, translator, poet, "Ah, how miserable!" Homer must have had an amazing memory but was helped by the formulaic poetry style of the time. I think he had a good classics major undergraduate kind of Greek, but I think its all to do with a particular notion of aesthetics and class, the whole plainness and nobility. Its about noblesse oblige and youre going to be the kind of gentleman whos going to have gone to Rugby and that will be the kind of language that we speak: the classy kind of language. Chapman starts things off, in his version, with many a way/Wound with his wisdom; John Ogilby counters with the terser prudent; Thomas Hobbes evades the word, just calling Odysseus the man. Quite a range, and weve barely started. Lovelace Bigge-Withers many-sided-man; George Edgingtons deep; William Cullen Bryants sagacious; Roscoe Mongans skilled in expedients; Samuel Henry Butcher and Andrew Langs so ready at need; Arthur Ways of craft-renown; George Palmers adventurous; William Morriss shifty; Samuel Butlers ingenious; Henry Cotterills so wary and wise; Augustus Murrays of many devices; Francis Caulfeilds restless; Robert Hillers clever; Herbert Batess of many changes; T.E. Homer and other bards of the time could recite, or chant, long epic poems. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. Its just the boys club., I do think that gender matters, Wilson said later, and Im not going to not say its something Im grappling with. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on April 23, 2018. Antigone was, as Prins reminds us, a massive influence on the work of George Eliot, who read the drama in terms of opposition between individual and society; it is a play about political resistance as much as duty. The most highly praised male classicist translators of our era such as Robert Fagles write with a confident exuberance, often expanding or adding to the original. Aristotle said that the Iliad was a poem in which things happened to people, while the Odyssey was a poem of character. One of the things I struggled with, Wilson continued, sounding more exhilarated than frustrated as she began to unpack polytropos, the first description we get of Odysseus, is of course this whole question of whether he is passive the much turning or much turned right? She and another female colleague who had a child who was the same age as me organized this day care, first in my house and then it moved to this building near Somerville College.. I have not enjoyed this translation as much, finding aspects of it rather quirky with the use of modern idiom in places and some of the subtleties of the Ancient Greek words and proper names missing . But Emily Wilson's literal and precise . f you look up the subject heading female classicists in the large research library catalogue at the university where I teach, a grand total of five books pop up of which two are separate editions of, Innovative, stylish versions of Greek tragedies Anne Carson. Like, if it doesnt exist in English, it doesnt exist. For hundreds of years, the study of ancient Greece and Rome was largely the domain of elite white men and their bored sons. In Robert Fagless much-praised translation of the poem, Telemachus says, before he executes the palace women on his fathers command: No clean death for the likes of them, by god!/Not from me they showered abuse on my head, my mothers too!/You sluts the suitors whores!. 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